• Mildred Codilla

    @Brent-Karding said in 2 Corinthians 5:16-17:

    Within that, in answer to your question, Mildred, I’m interpreting 16-17 as two parallel Inferences from 14-15. Verse 16 is a negative result of Christ’s love controlling Paul, and verse 17 is a positive result.

    Thank you for this answer brother. I understand your explanation here.

    But I don’t understand the phrasing module. But thank you for the effort brother.

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  • Mildred Codilla

    I find it hard to analize 2 Cor.5 16 & 17. Both verses have conjunction “therefore”. Where is it grounded specifically? Any idea on these brothers?

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  • Mildred Codilla

    16 From now on, therefore, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we once regarded Christ according to the flesh, we regard him thus no longer. 17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

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  • Mildred Codilla

    Wow, the answer is very helpful brother. This means a lot. Thank you so much!

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  • Mildred Codilla

    Yes brother, I understand. Because if we will set 10% as the baseline, then we will fall into legalism. Giving from the heart will not be the basis then.

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  • Mildred Codilla

    In the process of evangelism, we have observed that one people are only willing to give a short time to hear the gospel. So the way we present the Gospel to them should be brief and concise. Do you have any suggestion of an outline that we can make as a reference on what we really need to say in evangelism?

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  • Mildred Codilla

    In the Philippines, it is part of the culture to eat blood of animal, like blood of pork or beef. It is called dinugoan, wherein pure animal blood is cooked and seasoned with salt and spices. But in the Old Testament it says in Deuteronomy 12:23
    Only be sure that you do not eat the blood, for the blood is the life, and you shall not eat the life with the flesh. While in the New Testament it says in Matthew 15:11
    it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.”
    Any idea about this?

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  • Mildred Codilla

    I have a follow-up question brother. If we are not commanded to give tithes today, Is it Biblical to say that tithes or 10% of our income is just a minimum of what real christians give to God as a monetary offering? What I’m trying to say is that since the Holy Spirit really lives inside a converted person’s life, then he has become so transformed that the giving of the offering that he once hated to do, now he does cheerfully and joyfully knowing that everything he has even money is not his but God’s.

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  • Mildred Codilla

    @Brent-Karding

    Yes Brother, I am convinced and I believe the doctrine of Perseverance of the saints. Please help me how to share this verse to those who are confused because of it. How am I going to explain to them the phrases: “after they have escaped the defilements of the world”, and “after washing herself” both in 2 Peter 2:20-22, and also the phrase: “you too will be cut off” in Romans 11:22? In these verses, its mentioned that they have escaped the defilements and washed, that could be confusing because it sounds like they have been regenerated. you too will be cut off is a phrase that implies that they were once part of the body or vine and were threatened to be cut off from the body. Please enlighten me about these things brother.

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  • Mildred Codilla

    @Brent-Karding said in Do We Give Tithes Today?:

    I’m glad you understand better now!

    Thank you for making me understand kuya.

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  • Mildred Codilla

    @Brent-Karding
    Okay brother. Thank you so much for answering. I really appreciate it.

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  • Mildred Codilla

    @Brent-Karding said in Do We Give Tithes Today?:

    What I meant was that the Bible doesn’t teach, “You may only give money to the local church, not to missionaries or people in need directly.” Does that make more sense?

    Yes brother, now I understand it clearly. So my application for this is that if our pastor is not needy, we will give more to missions, street children or needy brother. Now, I will not feel guilty about all this, but can now give cheerfully.

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  • Mildred Codilla

    @Brent-Karding said in Do We Give Tithes Today?:

    But nowhere in Scripture are we commanded to give to the local church to the exclusion of giving to missionaries or street children or to other believers in need.

    Brother, please make me understand that line. I’m sorry, I did not understand it.

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  • Mildred Codilla

    @Brent-Karding said in Matthew 18:15-20:

    Jesus Christ himself has given the local church the authority to remove unrepentantly sinning members out of the church.

    This impacts church membership, doesn’t it? When a church votes on allowing someone to join or not, they are looking at their claim to be Christians, seeing if it matches with their life according to Scripture, and then putting their stamp of approval on them or not…That’s exactly what the church does when it accepts members, and the opposite when it disciplines members.

    I’m not sure if I understand this right. “Allowing to join”, does this mean brother that before a person can join the church, he is first examined? Or does this mean that during the process of him attending churh, he is examined whether his life matches that of the Scripture?

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  • Mildred Codilla

    @Brent-Karding said in Matthew 18:15-20:

    Jesus Christ himself has given the local church the authority to remove unrepentantly sinning members out of the church.

    And when we compare this verse with Matthew 16:19, we can also see that the church has a God-given authority to admit or exclude people from Heaven! Not that you or I have the power to save people or not let them be saved; rather, God has given to the church His inspired Word, which He gave through the apostles as the foundation of the church. And the job is to look at what Scripture says about salvation, and based on that, to pronounce people as “saved” or “unsaved.”

    Can we use Matthew 16:19 brother to pronounce people as “saved” or “unsaved”? Are we allowed Biblically to pronounce people as “saved” or “unsaved”?

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  • Mildred Codilla

    @Brent-Karding said in Do We Give Tithes Today?:

    My conclusion from all this is that tithing is not required in the New Testament era for us as Christians.

    However, we shouldn’t conclude with relief, “I get to keep all my money!” Because the NT does teach that believers should “excel” in the “grace” of giving (2 Cor 8:7); that we should give freely and generously and gladly (2 Cor 9:7). And we should do that because, as Paul writes in 2 Corinthians 8:9, “you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you by his poverty might become rich.”

    Thank you for making it clear Brother that tithing is not for us today, but we are taught to excel in the grace of giving.

    My follow up question is that, can we divide our giving? Can we not give all to the offering box, but also give portion to missions, street children whom we are reaching out, or to the members of our church who are in need? Many of the pastors I know here in the Philippines get rich because of the offering, but we don’t usually see that they use the money from the offering box to help the needy or support missions.

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  • Mildred Codilla

    This church discipline is entirely new to me brother, but I’m willing to learn.

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  • Mildred Codilla

    Malachi 3:8
    Will man rob God? Yet you are robbing me. But you say, ‘How have we robbed you?’ In your tithes and contributions.

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  • Mildred Codilla

    1 Corinthians 5:9-13
    I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.
    But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.
    For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

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