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    @Brent-Karding said in Do We Give Tithes Today?:

    I’m glad you understand better now!

    Thank you for making me understand kuya.

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    @Brent-Karding
    Okay brother. Thank you so much for answering. I really appreciate it.

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  • Mildred Codilla

    @Brent-Karding said in Do We Give Tithes Today?:

    What I meant was that the Bible doesn’t teach, “You may only give money to the local church, not to missionaries or people in need directly.” Does that make more sense?

    Yes brother, now I understand it clearly. So my application for this is that if our pastor is not needy, we will give more to missions, street children or needy brother. Now, I will not feel guilty about all this, but can now give cheerfully.

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    @Brent-Karding said in Do We Give Tithes Today?:

    But nowhere in Scripture are we commanded to give to the local church to the exclusion of giving to missionaries or street children or to other believers in need.

    Brother, please make me understand that line. I’m sorry, I did not understand it.

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  • Mildred Codilla

    @Brent-Karding said in Matthew 18:15-20:

    Jesus Christ himself has given the local church the authority to remove unrepentantly sinning members out of the church.

    This impacts church membership, doesn’t it? When a church votes on allowing someone to join or not, they are looking at their claim to be Christians, seeing if it matches with their life according to Scripture, and then putting their stamp of approval on them or not…That’s exactly what the church does when it accepts members, and the opposite when it disciplines members.

    I’m not sure if I understand this right. “Allowing to join”, does this mean brother that before a person can join the church, he is first examined? Or does this mean that during the process of him attending churh, he is examined whether his life matches that of the Scripture?

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  • Mildred Codilla

    @Brent-Karding said in Matthew 18:15-20:

    Jesus Christ himself has given the local church the authority to remove unrepentantly sinning members out of the church.

    And when we compare this verse with Matthew 16:19, we can also see that the church has a God-given authority to admit or exclude people from Heaven! Not that you or I have the power to save people or not let them be saved; rather, God has given to the church His inspired Word, which He gave through the apostles as the foundation of the church. And the job is to look at what Scripture says about salvation, and based on that, to pronounce people as “saved” or “unsaved.”

    Can we use Matthew 16:19 brother to pronounce people as “saved” or “unsaved”? Are we allowed Biblically to pronounce people as “saved” or “unsaved”?

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  • Mildred Codilla

    @Brent-Karding said in Do We Give Tithes Today?:

    My conclusion from all this is that tithing is not required in the New Testament era for us as Christians.

    However, we shouldn’t conclude with relief, “I get to keep all my money!” Because the NT does teach that believers should “excel” in the “grace” of giving (2 Cor 8:7); that we should give freely and generously and gladly (2 Cor 9:7). And we should do that because, as Paul writes in 2 Corinthians 8:9, “you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you by his poverty might become rich.”

    Thank you for making it clear Brother that tithing is not for us today, but we are taught to excel in the grace of giving.

    My follow up question is that, can we divide our giving? Can we not give all to the offering box, but also give portion to missions, street children whom we are reaching out, or to the members of our church who are in need? Many of the pastors I know here in the Philippines get rich because of the offering, but we don’t usually see that they use the money from the offering box to help the needy or support missions.

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    This church discipline is entirely new to me brother, but I’m willing to learn.

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  • Mildred Codilla

    Malachi 3:8
    Will man rob God? Yet you are robbing me. But you say, ‘How have we robbed you?’ In your tithes and contributions.

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    1 Corinthians 5:9-13
    I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.
    But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.
    For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”

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